02 GMC 2500HD 8'2" BOSS V-Plow w/Poly Edges & BOSS Wings 03 GMC 2500HD 8'0" BOSS Super-Duty w/Poly Edges & BOSS Wings ... classifieds, troubleshooting, maintenance, and more! Show Less . Full Forum Listing. Explore Our Forums. Weather Commercial Snow Removal Used Plowing and Truck Equipment Forum Chevy Trucks 🔧 Truck & Equipment Repair. Top ...Form No. MSC25235 Rev A Owner's Manual V-Blade Plow Kit Snowrator MAG Part No. SNR24023—Serial No. 400000000 and Up Registeratwww.bossplow.com. …Snow Deflector - 7'6" & Under Straight Blade and HTX-V (MSC04587B) Snow Deflector - 8' and Under Straight Blade and HTX-V (MSC04587C) Snow Deflector (10' V-Blade, 10' Straight Blade, 8'-10' EXT) (MSC17611B, MSC01565) Snowplow Sight System (MSC09644) Straight Blade Back Drag Edge Installation Manual (STB06534, STB06535, STB06536, STB06537, STB06538)1987 Chevy 1 T 4x4 built 454 8-2 Boss V plow 2002 GMC Yukon XL 3/4 ton 7.5' SnowEx RD plow SnowEx 1075 spreader Tractors:2015 John Deere 1025r ... snow management, classifieds, troubleshooting, maintenance, and more! Show Less . Full Forum Listing. Explore Our Forums. Weather Commercial Snow Removal Chevy Trucks 🔧 …Hook the opposite end of Return spring through 1/2" hole in closest rib to the center using 1/2" Spadebolt, 1/2" Flat Washer, and 1/2" Self-Locking Nut (See Figure 3). Tighten Spring until there is a 1/32" space between spring coils. Repeat this process for Return Spring on the opposite side of the plow. 13.Troubleshooting Guide 22 Troubleshooting Guide Glossary of Problems: 1. Pump motor does not run. 2. Pump continues to run with switch in neutral. 3. Plow will not lower. 4. Plow will not raise or raises slowly, motor runs. 5. Blade Angles While Plowing Snow 6. Blade will not angle, but motor runs. 7. Blade angles too easily while plowing. 8.When you need to troubleshoot the electrical system of your plow, these tools will be helpful. Watch this review of the diagnostic tools you'll need for your...To keep your BOSS PLOW in top shape, take a few minutes to study this manual. It will show you how to use and service BOSS, familiarize you with all of its parts, and give you helpful tips on plowing snow. If you have further questions, your local BOSS PLOW DEALER is the person to talk to. They know your plow well and want your complete ...I have 2 methods of checking tension. #1 Put the plow in carry position/inverted V. Raise it the whole way, drop it partially. If it flops forward it needs to be tightened. #2 Put the plow in carry position/inverted V. Grab the plow and pull from the top, if I can trip it with my weight/strength it needs to be tightened.I do this in the Spring when I put it away. In the Fall, thats when I'll change the fluid. If you get more than 3-4 events per year, you may want to grease it 1/2 way through the season. TLS. 2004 GMC 2500HD Reg Cab 6.0L. BOSS 9'2" V-Plow (steel) BOSS SmartHitch Receiver Mount Salt Spreader. 265 Cooper Discoverer M+S.1981 Chevy 1 ton 454 w 4spd 8'2" Steel Boss V plow 8' Boss V box sander 1977 Chevy 3/4 ton, 350 Chevy w 4spd 8'2" Steel Boss V plow ... classifieds, troubleshooting, maintenance, and more! Show Less . Full Forum Listing. Explore Our Forums. Weather Commercial Snow Removal Used Plowing and Truck Equipment Forum Chevy Trucks 🔧 Truck ...F350 Diesel 2006 8 ft BOSS VXT V Plow 2 TGS06 Salt Dogg spreader Most People Hate Snow payup. Save Share. ... classifieds, troubleshooting, maintenance, and more! Show Less . Full Forum Listing. Explore Our Forums. Weather Commercial Snow Removal Used Plowing and Truck Equipment Forum Chevy Trucks 🔧 Truck & Equipment Repair. Top Contributors ...With the SmartHitch2 attachment system, it's as easy as flip, plug and switch to attach your BOSS snow plow. Watch to learn how to attach your snow plow to y...Boss plow won't lift. I have a 2013 boss 7'6" sport duty poly straight blade. The plow will not lift I have checked all solenoid's and switched the hydraulic spools around to see if another function had problems it does the same thing no matter what solenoid or spools I switched. I checked the spools with a separate battery (and the solenoid's ...To get the most out of your BOSS snow plow, make sure you are performing routine maintenance procedures. Use this video as a guide the next time you go out t...Boss Plow RT3 problems. I'm looking at a plow truck. It has a Boss RT3 plow that is approx. 4 or 5 years old. The plow got used a little the first year, even less the second, and it has pretty much sat most of the time since then, indoors. My questions: The guy indicated that the solenoid is bad, he bypassed it by "jumping across" the terminals.1137 posts · Joined 2005. #1 · Oct 30, 2006. Im having problems with my new 8'2" V. When I hold the top 2 buttons on my handheld to put the blade in scoop the left wing will not move until the right one is up all the way. Every other function works.Anytime the scoop function is used the left wing stops moving until the right has finished moving.TLS said: Still, your best bet would be to use those old edges. And weld some 1/2" plate flush with the bottom of your center section. That or buy BOSS's steel snow catchers and weld them to your new edges. But, for sure, bad things will happen with that edge not bolted firmly to the plow.A V Plow is a straight blade with two more functions, V and Scoop. It will do everything a straight blade will do, but speed you up with busting drifts or containing snow. In the end its your decision, I run a mix of both. I like my old straight blade, but I will not buy a new straight blade.Boss-V wont lift, It just click's, Please help!! Worked fine yesterday, I topped off the fluid and all it I hear is the seleniod clicking. Power is good to the controller & plow lights but not lifting just clicking. Im worried cuz snow is …BossPlow2010. 11750 posts · Joined 2010. #7 · Feb 21, 2021. That plow was made around 2006, you'll have to call boss a d get the exact year, but that's pretty close. Advil is brown here... And yes I know that for sure because I pop em like Pez... Kevin_NJ and EWSplow. This is an older thread, you may not receive a response, and could be ...The XV2 v-plow features extreme flared wings that soar from a 35″ center height up to 45″ at the outer edge on 10′ 6″ models. The XV2 v-plow is available in premium, corrosion-resistant stainless steel and powder coated steel in 8′ 6″, 9′ 6″ and 10′ 6″ widths. The blade comes standard with a 6″, high carbon steel cutting ...RT3 Power-V Blade with SmartHitch™ Manifold G10003 RT3 Straight Blade with SmartHitch™ Manifold G10042 JUMPER WIRE RED RED/BLACK ORANGE JUMPER WIRE BLACK WHITE BLUE GREEN JUMPER WIRE SMART HITCH SELECTOR SWITCH. Title: Microsoft Word - 11-pin Manifold Wiring Diagrams.doc Author:6635shane Discussion starter. 6 posts · Joined 2019. #1 · Sep 11, 2019. Hey guys i have a Boss rt3 8.2 v-plow! When i plug the power wires in the plow motor keeps running and the wires get really hot! Nothing functions when plugged in! I also used 2 different controllers to see if it was that!Troubleshooting Guide 22 Troubleshooting Guide Glossary of Problems: 1. Pump motor does not run. 2. Pump continues to run with switch in neutral. 3. Plow will not lower. 4. Plow will not raise or raises slowly, motor runs. 5. Blade Angles While Plowing Snow 6. Blade will not angle, but motor runs. 7. Blade angles too easily while plowing. 8.Dieselfuel, I cant comment on boss vs western at all. My Dad has a Kubota 1100 with a SnowDogg V and its been fine for the 2 years he has used it. Had a super cold spell and I needed to widen my drive out after it drifted and I borrowed his setup instead of freezing on my ATV plow setup. View attachment 189903.Here I show you how to change the hydrolic fluid on all BOSS PLOWS. This works for changing fluid in a v-plow or straight blade changing fluid in a v-plow o...Hambrick & Co. Discussion starter. 1360 posts · Joined 2007. #1 · Dec 13, 2013. I have an 8ft Boss straight blade and I'm not getting power to the controller or the plow it self. I replaced the controller with a brand new one I had and still no power. Connections to battery are clean no corrosion.BUILT FOR FULL-SIZE JOBS AND HALF-TON TRUCKS . Download New Product Guide . © 2024 BOSS SnowplowPersonally I like the Boss V better. Boss plows have pretty fast hydraulics which is very nice. They also have no lift chain which is nice, and their mounting system is super easy. Their blade trip system isn't the greatest, but not bad. The one thing I don't like on the Boss V's is their centre shoe/hoof.Mar 10, 2019 · Fixing a bad ground on my boss v-plowDescription. Quick Mount Full 'V' Plow Cart for Boss Poly/Power V and Hiniker 8'-6"-9'-6" V-Plows. Bring your plow to the truck! The Quick Mount Plow Cart's simple T-design and casters, make the removal of your plow easy and effortless. You no longer need to lift or try to drag around the plow. Plus, by being able to remove your plow in minutes ...Troubleshooting Guide Glossary of Problems: 1. Pump motor does not run. 2. Pump continues to run with switch in neutral. 3. Plow will not lower. 4. Plow will not raise or raises slowly, motor runs. 5. Blade Angles While Plowing Snow 6. Plow lowers too fast. 7. Blade will not angle, but motor runs. 8. Blade angles too easily while plowing. 9.BUILT FOR FULL-SIZE JOBS AND HALF-TON TRUCKS . Download New Product Guide . © 2024 BOSS SnowplowThe Tundra frame is 35" wide just like the Tacoma, so customizing is easy. Anyway.... learned about the new Boss HTX-V plow made for half ton trucks (just came out in 2016). The plow weighs 490 lbs, 25" tall in the middle and 32" tall on the ends, and has pushplates for the Yota. Found one, mounted it, and I'm VERY impressed!We never did get a backdrag edge for the plow, it did ok backdraging but not nearly as good as a straight or wideout. 2015 F350 w/ Wideout. 2006 F550 w/ Wideout. 2007 F350 w/ 8.6 MVP. 1998 K2500 w/ 8' Pro w/ Hinged Backdrag. 2001 F350 w/ 1.8cu Western Tornado. S185/bucket. $20 Special shovels. Toro Single Stages.Nov 29, 2016 · Look into your large 13 pin connector on the plow side, make sure the #13 pin isn't broken. If it is broken, you will still hear a click when activating the smartswitch, but it will not raise or drop. It doesn't sound like the switch is bad, but that's easy enough to check with an ohm meter or continuity tester. W.Oct 3, 2019 · 35+ years plowing only Driveways (about 100 of them) 00 Jeep Wrangler, 7 1/2 Boss V with DP, Front Air Shocks, Duel Batteries, ARBs, Belt Driven Air Comp, Dana 60 Rear, 160 amp alt, Blizzak Tires. 03 Wrangler 7 1/2 Boss VXT with DP, Air Shocks, , 160 amp alt, Backup Camera, Blizzak Tires.95 Ford F350, 460, auto, 4wd, Boss V blade. Bobcat 753 skid-steer with plow blade (Don't own 'em, just use 'em) ... classifieds, troubleshooting, maintenance, and more! Show Less . Full Forum Listing. Explore Our Forums. Weather Commercial Snow Removal Used Plowing and Truck Equipment Forum Chevy Trucks 🔧 Truck & Equipment Repair.FormNo. MSC13768RevB Owner'sManual Straight-BladePlow forATVorUTV Registeratwww.bossplow.com. OriginalInstructions(EN) *MSC13768* BTroubleshooting Guide Glossary of Problems: 1. Pump motor does not run. 2. Pump continues to run with switch in neutral. 3. Plow will not lower. 4. Plow will not raise or raises slowly, motor runs. 5. Blade Angles While Plowing Snow 6. Plow lowers too fast. 7. Blade will not angle, but motor runs. 8. Blade angles too easily while plowing. 9.BOSS Products 2010 The BOSS Way Iron Mountain, MI 49801 USA Phone: (800) 286-4155 Email: [email protected] I came outside, I wanted to plow his long driveway as I left, the controller wouldn't turn on. The light switch works, but nothing else. I chose ON/OFF on the controller, nothing happens, no lights light up like the usually do. I have the boss vplow handheld controller. I checked under the hood quick, found 1 large 40amp and 3 small 10amp ...Begin the assembly procedure by cutting down each corner of the plow box so that each wall of the box will lie flat on the floor. The box can be used as a mat and will help prevent scratching the blade halves during installation. Remove Left Blade Half (5) and Right Blade Half. (4) from the crate.3.) The only real features you need for light residential work is up/down of course and power left/right. You absolutely want the ability to turn your plow from inside otherwise you will struggle greatly. Pushing snow to the sides is critical when plowing.Looking for help on how to adjust bump stop on 8.2 Boss v. Plow is touching on the outside of plow only, leaving about the middle 1/3 of the plow area not ... classifieds, troubleshooting, maintenance, and more! Show Less . Full Forum Listing. Explore Our Forums. Weather Commercial Snow Removal Used Plowing and Truck Equipment …if your having issues with your plow,this might helpThe problem I have with boss v plows is the full trip design, it just doesnt seem to work with a v plow. In the scoop postion it is impossible for the plow to trip. ... classifieds, troubleshooting, maintenance, and more! Show Less . Full Forum Listing. Explore Our Forums. Weather Commercial Snow Removal Used Plowing and Truck Equipment Forum ...About Press Copyright Contact us Creators Advertise Developers Terms Privacy Policy & Safety How YouTube works Test new features NFL Sunday Ticket Press Copyright ...New Boss Power-V XT 8'-2" just installed on a 2009 Ford F-250 V-10, and (New Set Optional Plow Wings ordered arriving soon). Question #1: When plow blades are both fully retracted and plow is in the "Full-V" position fully lowered to the ground - The Right and Left ends of the plow are touching the ground and the center "V" is approximately 1/2 to 3/4 of an inch OFF the level paved test ground ...mT N United States FormNo. STB10140RevB InstallationInstructions RT3Straight-BladePlow PartNo.STB15020B—SerialNo.400000000andUp PartNo.STB15025—SerialNo.400000000andUpI found the troubleshooting section of the owners manual online, but don't really know where to start and my money is tight right now. thanks for any and all input ... 1987 Chevy 1 T 4x4 built 454 8-2 Boss V plow 2002 GMC Yukon XL 3/4 ton 7.5' SnowEx RD plow SnowEx 1075 spreader Tractors:2015 John Deere 1025r 2019 1025r 2010 X720 ussmileyflag.1160 posts · Joined 2006. #1 · Dec 9, 2007. Just finished wireing up and installing my 9'2" Power V from Boss. had it all hooked up right, had the plow working, then flipped the switch to plow lights, and had both, highbeam and lowbeam. i didnt care much and was gonna run with it till we heard from boss. But then i flipped the switch to truck ...Boss-V wont lift, It just click's, Please help!! Worked fine yesterday, I topped off the fluid and all it I hear is the seleniod clicking. Power is good to the controller & plow lights but not lifting just clicking. Im worried cuz snow is on its way, i know you guys can help.BOSS PRODUCTS A Division of Northern Star Industries, Inc. P.O. Box 787 Iron Mountain MI 49801-0787 www.bossplow.com V-XT & DXT BLADE WING EXTENSION KIT INSTALLATION INSTRUCTIONS Kit Number: MSC08063B Covering Plows: Power V-XT Power V-DXT PUSHING THE EDGE MSC08067_3Follow the wires back from your headlights. Mine had 2 relays wired in that switch from plow lights to truck headlights. Swap them out one at a time with new relays. DO NOT use relays. from Radio Shack. They are not heavy enough and will burn out on the first or second.Dieselfuel, I cant comment on boss vs western at all. My Dad has a Kubota 1100 with a SnowDogg V and its been fine for the 2 years he has used it. Had a super cold spell and I needed to widen my drive out after it drifted and I borrowed his setup instead of freezing on my ATV plow setup. View attachment 189903.Description. Quick Mount Full 'V' Plow Cart for Boss Poly/Power V and Hiniker 8'-6"-9'-6" V-Plows. Bring your plow to the truck! The Quick Mount Plow Cart's simple T-design and casters, make the removal of your plow easy and effortless. You no longer need to lift or try to drag around the plow. Plus, by being able to remove your plow in minutes ...Look into your large 13 pin connector on the plow side, make sure the #13 pin isn't broken. If it is broken, you will still hear a click when activating the smartswitch, but it will not raise or drop. It doesn't sound like the switch is bad, but that's easy enough to check with an ohm meter or continuity tester. W.Looking at replacing my plow with a V plow, I was going to go with a Boss V but after looking at the Meyers Super V I am having second thoughts, I have a Meyers straight blade now, so I know what Meyers is like, the Super V looks like a tough plow, plus it has the Roc-solid warranty, and the one button adjustments, anyone have any experience with the Super V, I've heard that Boss is supposed ...Dec 12, 2016 · Boss plow won't lift. I have a 2013 boss 7'6" sport duty poly straight blade. The plow will not lift I have checked all solenoid's and switched the hydraulic spools around to see if another function had problems it does the same thing no matter what solenoid or spools I switched. I checked the spools with a separate battery (and the solenoid's ...86 posts · Joined 2007. #8 · Sep 28, 2016. We have both, I thought the same thing $850 is a lot to spend compared to the $200 for the buyers wings. Hands down the Boss wings are better. They are better made and as others have stated they will carry more snow. 03' F250 4x4. 04' F250 4x4.SL3 headlight package, standard on every BOSS truck plow, shines brighter and farther than traditional halogen packages and is equipped with Ice Shield Technology. With best-in-class 100% LED lighting, integrated with Ice Shield Technology to prevent snow and ice build-up on the lens, these headlights use half the amperage of halogen systems ...Snow Plow Troubleshooting. V-Blade Cutting Edges for Boss Plows. Showing 1-15 of 15. 43-7/8" High Carbon Steel Cutting Edge 7.6' V-Blade, Top Punch with 4 Mounting Holes - Replaces Boss BAX00002 RTII V-Blade BAX00097 ... This product is a replacement snow catcher kit that is designed for use with the Boss line of V-Blade snow plows. $115.95 ...Make sure your plows battery is working and there aren’t any cut or exposed wires that are shorting out. Electrical connections should be tight and clean. Even a little corrosion could interfere with the ability to keep things running. Visually inspect the fuses (or “fail-safes”) in the vehicle’s charging system and plow connectors.9 posts · Joined 2016. #1 · Dec 21, 2016. Need some help guys..I have a newer Boss V plow 8'2 blade on my F350. Had a dealership do all the mounting and everything, runs great. The thing is, it will automatically raise up and then I can hear the motor still running while its up like its still trying to raise the blade.bossplow.com1. Loosen the jam nut then adjust the set screw. 2. Clockwise will decrease lowering speed, counter-clockwise will increase lowering speed. 3. Re-tighten the jam nut when desired speed is obtained. CAUTION: If your plow is equipped with SmartHitch, and you turn the set screw too far counter-clockwise you may lose the detach function with ...T. tooldad. 73 posts · Joined 2014. #2 · Aug 26, 2015. not exactly, but I am putting the boss 6ft straight utv blade on this fall. My dealer has one traded in, now that they finally came out with a mount, going for it. advantage of straight is lighter, I know not much, but it makes a difference in the end. we have the boss 5ft atv plow, world ...Feb 14, 2011 · MountainMog;1242964 said: BTW, I got the following information from one of the local Boss dealers, thought it might be useful to anyone who passes this way... HYD01639 Pressure Relief Valve Factory setting: 2800psi. Turning clockwise increases pressure to: 1/4 turn = 2888psi. 1/2 turn = 2978psi. 3/4 turn = 3071psi.In observance of Memorial Day, BOSS Snowplow will be closed Monday, May 27th. ShopBOSS orders placed Friday, May 24th , after 12 pm (noon) through Monday, May 27th, will be processed on Tuesday, May 28th. If you need a part immediately, please contact your local BOSS Dealer. Visit www.ups.com for a complete holiday shipping schedule. Thank you.to plow lights/truck lights toggle switch. Refer to the wiring diagram in this manual. 16. Blade digs into the ground in the V-position. Center shoe adjusted too low. Add washers to the center shoe to raise the tip of the plow. Push beam installed too high. Lower the push beam. 17. Blade does not lay flat against the ground in the scoop position.5. Trip Spring Adjustment. To adjust trip spring tension, adjust the eyebolts. located at the top of the blade. • Loosen the locknut (nut closest to the spring). • Tighten the adjusting nut (nut furthest from the. spring) until the coils begin to separate. When. tension is properly adjusted, a sheet of paper.I found the troubleshooting section of the owners manual online, but don't really know where to start and my money is tight right now. thanks for any and ... 1987 Chevy 1 T 4x4 built 454 8-2 Boss V plow 2002 GMC Yukon XL 3/4 ton 7.5' SnowEx RD plow SnowEx 1075 spreader Tractors:2015 John Deere 1025r 2019 1025r 2010 X720 …boss plow Yes I know that. I have had the plow foe eight years. Just took plow off,tried something new,pushed up on plow to release lock pinsand it will hydrolically will come off.Problem is I can heaer the pump working to go up to release the lock pins but it does not move.so, the pump is rinning but not pushing fluif in the right direction.Pump sounds like the valve is closed so the pump can ...When it comes to the harsh winters of Alberta, having the right equipment is essential for businesses and homeowners alike. One such piece of equipment that can make a significant ...4581 posts · Joined 2009. #1 · May 30, 2017. Don't know if anybody else is aware of this, but I just heard it. You can now get down pressure with (only) new Boss straight blades. Just thought I'd pass it along in case anybody wanted to know. A few trucks, a few V plows, and a few V boxes. Kubota BX 2350 sidewalk machine (looking for a cab) Share.Once you add the Boss wings to your 9'2, you then have an 11' blade. I'll take that over a straight blade any day. I hired a fella this winter to run one of my plow trucks with a Boss V, he had only experience using straight blades, after two hours with the V he came to me and said, "I don't want to ever use a straight blade again, the V is the cat's a$$".1984 Dodge Plow. 20 posts · Joined 2008. #7 · Feb 17, 2014. New cutting edges will work, but you will have to drill the holes to 5/8 for the bolts. Replacement BOSS cylinders would be HYD01603. 1984 Dodge W-150 (Sold It) Western Conventional. 1989 Dodge W-250. BOSS RT-1 V Plow.35+ years plowing only Driveways (about 100 of them) 00 Jeep Wrangler, 7 1/2 Boss V with DP, Front Air Shocks, Duel Batteries, ARBs, Belt Driven Air Comp, Dana 60 Rear, 160 amp alt, Blizzak Tires. 03 Wrangler 7 1/2 Boss VXT with DP, Air Shocks, , 160 amp alt, Backup Camera, Blizzak Tires.Look into your large 13 pin connector on the plow side, make sure the #13 pin isn't broken. If it is broken, you will still hear a click when activating the smartswitch, but it will not raise or drop. It doesn't sound like the switch is bad, but that's easy enough to check with an ohm meter or continuity tester. W.14 posts · Joined 2006. #1 · Dec 25, 2006. First let me say I am new to plowing, and want to add this service to my small business. I have a 1987 GMC full size Jimmy, with, I believe, a first generation Boss V plow. My problem started as an electrical problem, and, after getting that fixed, I thought, now the plow won't raise, or wings swing.. SL3 headlight package, standard on every BOSS trOwner'sManual forV-BladeandStraight-BladeSno To keep your BOSS PLOW in top shape, take a few minutes to study this manual. It will show you how to use and service BOSS, familiarize you with all of its parts, and give you helpful tips on plowing snow. If you have further questions, your local BOSS PLOW DEALER is the person to talk to. They know your plow well and want your complete ...SmartTouch2TM Control Operating Instructions. Figure 7. Power-V Control Instructions. G10365. ON/OFF: Push the ON/OFF switch to the left ON position to turn the control on. Green LED indicators will light up on the control. Push the ON/OFF switch to the right OFF position to turn the control off. RAISE: To raise the blade of the plow, quickly ... They just had to replace the headlight adapters which 1999 F-450 w/ 9'2" Boss V & Snow-EX 1075. Lots of Coffee & Skoal. Like. B&B. 13213 posts · Joined 2006. #3 · Dec 22, 2010. The plow isn't any newer than a 1994 (end of the RT1 era) but could be as old as the mid 80's. The mount will only fit up to a '91, '81-'91 to be exact and finding a '92-'96 mount will be nearly impossible due to the low ...Boss V left wing slow to extend? Finishing up my drive today and all of a sudden the left wing will only extend from the V about 6 inches and stops. It will retract back to the V fine. I put the plow down in the V position, lower the Smart Hitch Tower and check the Hydraulic oil and the Hyd. oil is to the middle or higher in the outside fill ... 21 posts · Joined 2005. #21 · Feb 2, 2006 ...
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